“Cross is the most fundamental necessary skill of a criminal defense lawyer. It’s not about natural talent, but the goal is to learn the skill set so as to teach the jury the key points.”
“Story telling is the main point of teaching by a cross examiner.”
“We cannot criticize a lawyer’s tactics from afar. We don’t have enough background information to judge the lawyer’s trial decisions from a TV studio.”
“There is nothing fair about the federal criminal courts. The ‘trial penalty’ is an everyday problem.”

Recorded on June 15, 2023