“I remind my deputies of the enormous power it is to detain and arrest someone; to deprive one of freedom is a huge deal. People who have been bullied should not be police officers. If there were greater numbers of women officers there would be less use of force.”
“Dona Ana County needs to move ahead to the 21st century. There is old thinking. Women are paid less than men in this county.”
” My work issues (with the County Manager and the District Attorney) don’t relate to homophobia, but more to being a woman in a man’s world.”
“I’m a legacy Buddhist – though a poor Buddhist – attempting to glimpse enlightenment. I’m not a true believer, but I do have beliefs.”

Recorded on April 22, 2023